Thursday, December 22, 2005

Laying Down on the Job, I Mean Laying Down the Floor

We started laying the hard wood floors upstairs today. Paul, the salvage barn manager for Friends of Historic Preservation, came this morning to give advice on where to begin and how to work. My thought was to start in the master bedroom and work toward the hallway. Paul's suggestion was to figure out where the baluster for the railing would be, and snap a line to work down the hallway toward the bedrooms. So that was what we did.


The first board we glued and screwed with 3" deck screws. We made sure to drive them into the floor joists, which means they also went through the original sub floor and the 1/4 inch plywood we laid over that to ensure a smooth surface. We counter sunk the screws and will cut 3/8" plugs to cover the holes.


Laying down the plywood will allow us to orient the floors the same as first floor. In so doing we will end up running the same direction as the original subfloor, which would be a big no-no without the decking. The sub floor on first floor is laid diagonally. Paul suggested laying the oak flooring diagonally which would simplify corners and edges, but we decided against that.

The floor nailer we are using is one I bought on Ebay. It is a "Ramsond" which I cannot find through any google searches. We are certain this is a reverse engineered knock off, that is probably produced by an overseas company that is a front for Al Qaeda, or the Columbian Drug Cartel, or both in partnership with the Tripartite Commision. Here is Pete driving the first staple.



We don't work quickly but are careful. At the end of the first wall I was with an 1/8" from being plumb.


I did work a little on my own down the narrow hallway, then called it a night.

14 comments:

HomeImprovementNinja said...

Hey! I am also putting in hardwood floors as we speak. I love the pneumatic nailer. I am jealous! Mine is a manual PortaNailer, which is very old skool, but I didn't have a compressor when I bought it. Later on I found a place (harbor freight) that sells pneumatic knockoffs for cheaper than the manual one costs at HD or Lowes. (arrrrgh!). Like you, I don't work as fast, but I am very careful. Much more careful than a contractor, in fact, because it's my house.

Anyway, feel free to check out my pics. I posted some flooring pics yesterday, and I hope to have some more up in the next couple of days or so (trying to get the place ready for xmass visitors). Good luck on your project!

Anonymous said...

I am interested in how well the ramsond stapler worked. Would you buy again? Problems

Thanks

Dave
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Joe Martin said...

I also purchased a Ramsond floor stapler. It worked wonders on my hardwood floor. No Jamming, no skipping. It's very light weight and very durable. It's an awsome tool. I recommend it. It seem like they are a new manufacturer out of Michigan. Probably an offshoot of the failed auto industry. I know they offer a great warranty. Before i purchased a Ramsond I was using one of the no names that looked similar. However, there was no support from the purchasers. But the Ramsond one has been working great.

Anonymous said...

I'm in search of a good and inexpensive air floor nailer and also found the Ramsond. It seems to be a good deal from the comments on this site. I believe it might be cheaper to buy rather to rent, even my smaller job.

Thanks for some good reviews of the Ramsond nailer

cherry said...

Yeah. This Ramsond floor nailer is great. I bought the stapler a few months back and it worked great. Recently i found a Ramsond 2-in-1 Floor stapler and naielr (it takes both staples and cleat nails). Just as the stapler, the 2 in 1 combination Ramsond has been great. Becaues i like to go fast, i typically tape the safety trigger down so it doesn't slow me down. (i know i shouldn't do that). But yeah, with these Ramsond tools it's cheaper to buy than rent and Ramsond tools that i have bought so far have given me no problem at all. Thanks.

Anonymous said...

Hi. The best one and the most economic is Ramsond. I have seen both the stapler and the Ramsond 2-in-1. the Ramsond 2-in-1 takes both cleats (only L) and staples. The Ramsond 2-in-1 i think is the best way to go, although i don't ever understand why you would use cleats. Anyone can give me an idea as to when you use cleats. Anyway, the Ramsond 2-in-1 works great. I have only used this Ramsond staple function. No Jams or anything. Highly recommended

Jimmyfox said...

Hi. The best one and the most economic is Ramsond. I have seen both the stapler and the Ramsond 2-in-1. the Ramsond 2-in-1 takes both cleats (only L) and staples. The Ramsond 2-in-1 i think is the best way to go, although i don't ever understand why you would use cleats. Anyone can give me an idea as to when you use cleats. Anyway, the Ramsond 2-in-1 works great. I have only used this Ramsond staple function. No Jams or anything. Highly recommended

Anonymous said...

I thought that cleats were used for wood and staples were only used for engineered stuff or for nailing to OSB. Am I wrong? I'm about to install about 500 sq ft of 3/4" wood over plywood. It would be good to know what to nail with!

tool-researcher said...

Ramsond appears to be an imported knockoff of a brand name nailer.

Ramsond is a current trademarked name registered by TN Trading Company LLC (W. Bloomfield, MI).

The phone number listed for Ramsond is 248-363-8302. That's the same phone number for a couple other businesses, AC-World.com and Celiera.com. The Paypal ID Ramsond uses is Padova Imports.

The Paypal payment address for Ramsond nailers is an AC-World.com e-mail address.

AC-World.com and Celiera.com websites are registered to Farbod. H. Taleb, of W. Bloomfield, MI. Same location as the trademark holder. He is a Michigan attorney likely of Arab ancestry, as indicated by his 2003 donation to the Arab American Political Action Committee.

At one point, Farbod (AKA Patrick) Talab and his live-in (Dr. Zoe K. Doel - Bariatrics) were sued by the Point of the Woods homeowner's association for leaving his holiday decorations up for 7 months. They lost the argument in court.

A Dun and Bradstreet did not find any record of TN Trading Co, AC-World, Celiera, Ramsond, Padova Imports, which doesn't necessarily mean anything.

It is amazing what you can find on the internet these days.

Anonymous said...

For what it's worth I just used a Harbor Freight nailer to put down 450 square feet of 3/4 oak. It worked perfectly. I bought it for $139 which was less that Home Depot wanted to rent a Bostitch for one week. It's a good thing because I took more than a week to finish the floor. It looks an awful lot like this Rasmond you guys are using, it may be the same tool. I can't recommend it enough. Drives both cleats and staples(I used staples).

Anonymous said...

FYI, the Ramsond is actually a China knockoff, pretending to be a USA model. The company actually gives very poor CS after the sale, but will tell you whatever you want to hear before the sale....better to buy something from Lowes or Home Despot

sales said...

Bought a Ramsond RMM3. Wow. What a tool. Chinese or otherwise, this thing is solid. I am a professional installer.

Anonymous said...

I just purchased a Ramsond 2 in 1 floor nailer. The owners manual says it takes 15 1/2 guage cleats and 16 guage staples. Are cleats even made at 15 1/2 guage? I'm somewhat confused, my guess is that it will shoot 16 guage. Am I right ?

Anonymous said...

The big question is can one buy parts for this tool. I am semi professional and it seems that one power tool is always down. Has anyone found a place where the pistons and seals can be obtained for it? Or are they the same parts from a brand name gun?